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Re: Consecutives like Hebrew's "waw-consecutives" in your 'langs

From:Eldin Raigmore <eldin_raigmore@...>
Date:Wednesday, September 3, 2008, 18:18
On Wed, 3 Sep 2008 13:58:36 -0400, Jim Henry <jimhenry1973@...>
wrote:
>Would you use a similar set of quartets for various other conjunctive >notions? "Or", "nor", "if", "that", "then", "while", etc.? Or use some >other particle plus one of the four basic and-conjunctions for all >more complex conjunctions? Or use basic non-quartet conjunctions >for those other notions, and use a different means to mark switching >of voice, mood, aspect, tense, & polarity?
I have just begun considering those questions, and haven't made up my mind yet. "Or" and "nor" especially need to be considered just as you've mentioned. "If", "that", and "then", may presuppose a change in mood/mode/modality. Or, "then" might, instead, presuppose a change in tense. "While" basically means "and". I think it presupposes that tense and mood are the same. It's ordinarily used to conjoin two clauses of different aspect; one perfective (e.g. punctual) and one imperfective (e.g. durative). It may presuppose that polarity is the same as well. I don't think it makes any assumptions about voice, though.
>> TAM) How common is it for a 'lang to fuse Tense, Aspect, and >> Modality/Mode/Mood? Does your 'lang? > >It's all over the place in IE langs; not sure how common it is >outside the IE family. I think none of my langs fuse them, >though maybe a couple of my early artlangs for which I've >lost my detailed notes did so. One artlang project that's >been on the back burner has agglutinative aspect and >mood that might become fusional after some more sound >changes. > >Volap?ed aspect and tense, but marked mood and >voice separately; Esperanto fuses tense and mood, but >marks aspect separately. One possible analysis might >be that aspect and voice are tangled up in E-o, though >not fusionally per se. Most of the other auxlangs and >engelangs I'm familiar with mark all those optionally >and separately with adverbial particles, as does my >gzb. >-- >Jim Henry
Thanks.