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Re: new Klingon spelling

From:Benct Philip Jonsson <bpj@...>
Date:Saturday, January 3, 2004, 10:40
At 22:23 2.1.2004, Robert Jung wrote:
>I hope this will make Klingon less ugly! > >Every letter except these are the same: > >[From "The Sounds of Klingon" http://www.kli.org/tlh/soundshtml ] > >dh=D: >x=H >I=i * >qh=Q >sh=S >tlh=tl >'/?/`/7=' > >* Then what does <i> represent? > >--Robert
Beware! Every beginner in Klingon begins by meddling with the romanization! :) Actually it is quite unnecessary to put any _h_ after _d_ or _s_, since there's nothing they can be confused with. My favorite capsinsensitivization is thus: ch > c D > d H > k I > i Q > qh S > s ' > x The last is in order to really bring home that the glottal stop is a consonant like any other. If you like you could of course sprinkle _h_s more liberally (ch, dh, kh, ih, sh, xh) but I prefer to keep them only where they are really necessary in order to distinguish sounds. As a matter of fact I'm unfond of digraphs for single sounds in general and random h-digraphs in particular; that's why my lang Sohlob uses _tj, sj, (zj)_ (and _dj_) rather than the more 'English' _ch, sh, (zh, j). There is a non-ASCII version of Sohlob romanization which uses _c, c-cedilla, j_ instead of _tj, sj, dj/zj_, but I don't use that in email, nor in my vocabulary database, nor indeed in most that I write in or about Sohlob, since I tend to confuse my own handwritten c-cedillas with _s_ or _g_, and because I keep confusing Sohlob *nj* and *ny* the _ndj_ is much clearer. Note that _dj/zj_ denote different allophones of the same phoneme; I use _zj_ only in the combination _zjd_, since I think _djd_ for [z\d] looks too ugly. Now _h_ to indicate aspiration or voicelessness is another thing; hence _hl, hng, hn, hm_ for voiceless lateral and nasal in the romanization of Sohlob, and the use of the letters for voiced stops + the letter for /h/ to indicate voiceless aspirates in the 'native' Sohlob script. /BP 8^) -- B.Philip Jonsson mailto:melrochX@melroch.se (delete X) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~__ A h-ammen ledin i phith! \ \ __ ____ ____ _____________ ____ __ __ __ / / \ \/___ \\__ \ /___ _____/\ \\__ \\ \ \ \\ \ / / / / / / / \ / /Melroch\ \_/ // / / // / / / / /___/ /_ / /\ \ / /'Aestan ~\_ // /__/ // /__/ / /_________//_/ \_\/ /Eowine __ / / \___/\_\\___/\_\ Gwaedhvenn Angeliniel\ \______/ /a/ /_h-adar Merthol naun ~~~~~~~~~Kuinondil~~~\________/~~\__/~~~Noolendur~~~~~~ || Lenda lenda pellalenda pellatellenda kuivie aiya! || "A coincidence, as we say in Middle-Earth" (JRR Tolkien)