Re: Conculturish question Re: OFF : updated tunu grammar
From: | Paul Bennett <paul.bennett@...> |
Date: | Tuesday, October 26, 1999, 17:58 |
mathias>>>>>>
/snip amusing account of tunu law/
that's why i would not post any tunuan receipe like Steg was thinking
of doing it with snake trees.
<<<<<<mathias
Indeed. A very sound principle.
mathias>>>>>>
<<<<<
I think Wenetaic is going to try and exist with neither (true) copula nor
passivity. If a man bites a dog, it's a single event in semantic space, to a
Wenetaar, "looking at it from another direction" would seem pointless and
tautological. I'll probably have to give in and accept some auxiliaries,
though. You've set me thinking... more later...
>>>>>
you made me think too. actually i never use passive,
except for verbs that have no specific result, agent, patient, etc.
like "to hit" (different from "to make a blow").
the reason is that former tunu grammar was like weneatic :
"to-bucket by-water done.by-man"
so i understand what you mean.
<<<<<<mathias
I had to blink a few times before I saw this. The example you gave is from my
meina'n posting, (and your version looks superficially more like meina'n
grammar) so I wasn't sure who was misunderstanding whom for a second or two,
then I realised it was neither of us.<G> On further reflection, I realise
you've used dots and dashes "the other way round" from my normal usage.
mathias>>>>>>
so i changed tunu today by making indirect passive as "verb + wo" ("by"),
which eliminates the heavy passive voice (like "poco" > "po-poco-poco") :
<<<<<<mathias
Thank you for doing that. I'd have started to come down with "dilingo syndrome"
if I'd tried speaking tunu for too long a period.<G> I fear I still may...
OFF: How real do other people find the "dilingo effect" to be? How linked is it
to Sapir-Whorf? Is there anything else that produces it as consistently?
http://www.dilingo.com/
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