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Re: Tallefkeul: tones and whatnot

From:Andreas Johansson <and_yo@...>
Date:Monday, August 26, 2002, 20:49
Christophe Grandsire wrote:
> >About complicated languages, I've just discovered a new irregular feature >in >Maggel. Now you may think that I've already reached the summum of >irregularity >with what I have already. And yet I just managed to achieve more!! How? >Well, >until now Maggel had words that represented only remotely what was spoken, >but >in any case all sounds were represented, even if strangely or irregularly. >Also, silent letters were common. But I've just discovered that Maggel also >has >the opposite of silent letters, i.e. sounds that are pronounced but cannot >be >found in the written word at all, even remotely!!! And I'm not talking >about >sounds appearing from the clash between incompatible sounds (like |himidu| >being pronounced ['CE~mptU], with a epenthetic [p] between the incompatible >[m] >and [t]) but real phonemes!! The first example of a word containing this >feature is |a fre|: the first, which is pronounced [@ fReId], with a >phonemic /d/ which is not represented in the writing at all!!! > >So, haven't I reached a new level of complexity and irregularity or what? >;))) >
Is there any kind of internal explanation of Maggel's weird orthography? As for weirdifying it even more, have you included weirdo abbreviations, like f'rinstance "Salop" for Shropshire? The particular idea that strikes me at the moment is that _Maggel_ itself ought to be abbrevved "Ngr" on account of Yargish inability to pronounce /m/ or /l/. Or even better "Nrg" - introduced by a dyslectic Orc! Now, Maggel and Yargish presumably don't exist in the same coniverse, but you get the picture. And the word |a fre| cries out for a change [fR]>[fX]>[X]. I swear! Andreas _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger:


Christophe Grandsire <christophe.grandsire@...>