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irregular conlangs -- Gender

From:Ed Heil <edheil@...>
Date:Friday, October 8, 1999, 22:31
And IIRC, "gender" just comes from "genus, generis," meaning "type;"
its meaning of "sex" is entirely a consequence of IE languages sorting
things into "types" according to which sex or lack thereof they
belonged to.

(I wonder whether "sex" itself has a similar origin?  I've no
resources at hand to look it up...)

Ed doesn't know everything, but he hasn't figured that out yet.
Please break it to him gently.    

Don Blaheta wrote:

> Quoth mathias lassailly: > > Dans un courrier dat=E9 du 08/10/99 11:56:46 , Paul a =E9crit : > > > This strikes me as being the remnant of a complex Gender system in > > > proto-japanese. > > > =20 > > > Is there any truth in that? > >=20 > > it's all chinese-rooted classificators. > > except for the last one (-tsu) and i'd bet for -ri (people) and -ka
> > and now thinking of it i realize there are tens more. but all of them=
are SJ.
> > rather than proto-japanese i'd say it's prothese-japanese. > >=20 > > what do you mean by "gender" ? > > we europeans and else have man, woman and optionally castrated, > > but that's never been the case in japanese. >=20 > Grammatical gender doesn't have anything to do with physical gender, at > least not necessarily. In the European languages we still call them > "masculine", "feminine", and sometimes "neuter", but it's really just a > class system. How feminine is a door, really (la fen=EAtre, die T=FCr)=
? So
> by "gender" in this instance, we refer to whether something is a flat > thing other than a runway, tennis court, or pond, or in fact a runway, > court, or pond, or yet some other "gender" of word. :) >=20 > --=20 > -=3D-Don<http://www.cs.brown.=
> Political T.V. commercials prove one thing: some candidates can tell > all their good points and qualifications in just 30 seconds. >=20