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irregular conlangs -- Gender

From:Ed Heil <edheil@...>
Date:Friday, October 8, 1999, 22:31
And IIRC, "gender" just comes from "genus, generis," meaning "type;"
its meaning of "sex" is entirely a consequence of IE languages sorting
things into "types" according to which sex or lack thereof they
belonged to.

(I wonder whether "sex" itself has a similar origin?  I've no
resources at hand to look it up...)

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Don Blaheta wrote:

> Quoth mathias lassailly: > > Dans un courrier dat=E9 du 08/10/99 11:56:46 , Paul a =E9crit : > > > This strikes me as being the remnant of a complex Gender system in > > > proto-japanese. > > > =20 > > > Is there any truth in that? > >=20 > > it's all chinese-rooted classificators. > > except for the last one (-tsu) and i'd bet for -ri (people) and -ka
(day).
> > and now thinking of it i realize there are tens more. but all of them=
are SJ.
> > rather than proto-japanese i'd say it's prothese-japanese. > >=20 > > what do you mean by "gender" ? > > we europeans and else have man, woman and optionally castrated, > > but that's never been the case in japanese. >=20 > Grammatical gender doesn't have anything to do with physical gender, at > least not necessarily. In the European languages we still call them > "masculine", "feminine", and sometimes "neuter", but it's really just a > class system. How feminine is a door, really (la fen=EAtre, die T=FCr)=
? So
> by "gender" in this instance, we refer to whether something is a flat > thing other than a runway, tennis court, or pond, or in fact a runway, > court, or pond, or yet some other "gender" of word. :) >=20 > --=20 > -=3D-Don Blaheta-=3D-=3D-dpb@cs.brown.edu-=3D-=3D-<http://www.cs.brown.=
edu/~dpb/>-=3D-
> Political T.V. commercials prove one thing: some candidates can tell > all their good points and qualifications in just 30 seconds. >=20