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Re: does conlanging change your sense of reality?

From:Mark J. Reed <markjreed@...>
Date:Wednesday, April 1, 2009, 15:49
That depends on the language.  If a language is formally
oligosynthetic with a closed set of morphemes, than any new coinages
automatically make a new language...


On 4/1/09, Jim Henry <jimhenry1973@...> wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 10:15 AM, Lars Finsen <lars.finsen@...> wrote: >> Den 31. mar. 2009 kl. 22.32 skreiv Mark J. Reed: >> >>> Why must there be a "point" to the variety of languages?  Can't things >>> just be, without all having to fit into some master plan? The variety >>> is interesting of itself. >> >> Variety is charming. It makes linguists busy. Maybe that's enough of a >> point >> after all. But from a practical point of view it really would have been >> much >> better if we all used the same language - unless the different >> manifestations of language do have the ability to enrich our communication >> and understanding in practical ways. > > And I think it does. It's probably true that there's > nothing you can express in one general-purpose > language that you can't express in any other; but > different languages seem to be optimized for > talking about different things in different ways. > What's easy to express in one language is harder > to express in some others, etc. The strict > Whorfian idea that some ideas can only be > expressed in certain languages is almost certainly > false; but variety is still useful if it only makes > certain things easier to express in some languages > than in others. > > (On the other hand, if certain ideas can only > be expressed in a certain language by coining > a lot of new vocabulary, then is the resulting > expanded language still the same language? > If not, then the old, smaller-vocabulary version > of the language was in fact incapable of > expressing those ideas. But I would generally > incline to think that two versions of a language > differing only in the amount of vocabulary are > essentially the same language -- that it takes > a deeper change in grammar or the fundamental > semantics of basic vocabulary to form an > essentially different language.) > > -- > Jim Henry > http://www.pobox.com/~jimhenry/ >
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