Re: CHAT: pacifism

In a message dated 2003:12:21 03:47:23 PM, elemtilas@YAHOO.COM writes Re: the
fall of Rome, etc.:

>Yeah. Things rarely happen with a "bang". The
>"rise and fall" of empires is a long cycle of ups
>and downs or a carefully balanced dance. The only
>thing that really changes are the dancers and the
>dancemasters.
    And, according to one interpretation of Hinduism,
all the dancers and dancemasters are dancing the
Cosmic Dance of Shiva.

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    Hanuman Zhang

    "...divine chaos ...rumors of chaos have been known to enhance the mature
religious vision.... for the godhead manifests no more of its reality than
the limited grammar of each person's imagination and conceptual system can
handle. A second advantage is suggested by William James in _Varieties of Religious
Experience_.  James affirms the possibilty of many gods, mostly because he
takes seriously his multiverse theory of personal monads, each one of us
experiencing a unique religious revelation. An orderly monistic and monotheistic
system, he fears, might succumb to a craving for logical coherence, and trim away
some of the mystery, rich indeterminancy, and tragic ambiguity in a complete
numinous experience. For some temperaments, the ambivalent gentleness and
savagery of fate can be imagined effectively in a godhead split into personified
attributes, sometimes at war, sometimes in shifting alliance." - Vernon Ruland,
_Eight Sacred Horizons: The Religious Imagination East and West_

_NADA BRAHMA_ < Sanskrit >  "sound = Godhead"

"You breathe redemption, motive, power, You're elemental, super-collider

yeah tenn0!, You are air and earth, fire and ocean, You are Word, You are

tenn0 tenn0!" --- mortal - "tenn0"

_LILA_  < Sanskrit >
    1. the universe is what happens when God wants to play -
Divine Play - the play of the Divine in its Cosmic Dance, whimsy -  like a
child playing alone God the Cosmic Dancer - whose routine is all creatures and
all worlds - the Cosmos flows - a world from the tireless unending resistless
stream of God's energy that _is_ Lila
    2. joyous exercise of spontaneity involved in the art of creation this is
Lila

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