Re: vowel descriptions

> Nik Taylor wrote:
>
> > > w (in put, book *or* cut, what)
> >
> > In my dialect, those are different vowels.  For put & book, it is /U/, a
> > high-back-rounded lax vowel, for cut and what, it's /V/, a mid-central
> > vowel.
>
> You actually make a phonemic distinction between /V/ and /@/?
>
I do.  I can't possibly see myself easily pronouncing /V<r>/  but /@<r>/ is
trivial.  as far as I am concerned /@/ is just complete neutrality in
vowels, and also spoken extremely quickly.  If tk were an English word for
instance, I would pronounce it /t@k/  but tuk is /tVk/ to me.