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Re: CHAT: Going nomail

From:Julia Simon <julia.simon@...>
Date:Friday, April 11, 2008, 9:07

On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 7:50 PM, Eldin Raigmore
<eldin_raigmore@...> wrote:
> On Wed, 9 Apr 2008 11:17:27 +0100, R A Brown > <ray@...> wrote:
[snip snip]
> >Before I go, I'd like to add 'amen' to Philip Benct's remark: > >{quote} > >Let's make that "No Cross, No Crown, No Green Star, No > >Chauvinism", including first and foremost cultural > >chauvinism! > >{/quote} > >AMEN! > > "No Green Star", so no Esperanto, right? What about the other IALs? I know > the rule is "no missionary work for IALs", but how can we sum that up? Is "no > green star" the best way?
Well, since "no cross" means "no missionary work for any kind of religion" and not just "no Christian missionary work (but Buddhist/Wiccan/Baha'i/... missionaries are welcome)"; and since "no crown" similarly refers to any kind of politics, not just the subset that involves kings and queens and other people wearing actual crowns, the only problem I can see with "no green star" is that some of us aren't familiar with the green star as a symbol of Esperantism (or anything else, for that matter). (Let's face it: most of us have seen a cross and know what it represents, no matter whether we're Christian or not; and most of us have seen a crown and know what it represents, even if we don't know any actual king or queen and our country doesn't even have one; but how many of us who aren't actually involved in any auxlang-related activities have encountered the green star?) But anyway, I really don't have a problem with the "no X, no Y, no Z" rule mentioning the symbol of just one instance of each type instead of the actual type. After all, "no religious debates, no political debates, no auxlang advocacy" doesn't exactly roll off the tongue... ;-) On the other hand, I'm not sure if we really need to mention the green star explicitely. We *are* allowed to discuss auxlangs here, as long as we avoid advocating the use of one of them -- and once that point is reached, I really can't see much of a difference between advocating a specific auxlang (movement) and advocating a specific religious or political movement. But, hey, whatever. :-) Regards, Julia 8-) (relurking) -- Julia Simon (Schnecki) -- Sprachen-Freak vom Dienst _@" schnecki AT iki DOT fi / helicula AT gmail DOT com "@_ si hortum in bybliotheca habes, deerit nihil (M. Tullius Cicero)