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Re: Quest for colours: what's basic then?

From:Javier BF <uaxuctum@...>
Date:Saturday, April 24, 2004, 20:02
> > > Similarly, orange may well be red + yellow in scientific > > > or artistic terms, but no natlang is going to see it that way. > > > > Why are you so sure about that? I think it's like stating > > that no natlang is going to see purple as red + blue (German > > does: blaurot). > > [...] > I don't think it's a very good data point for a discussion of whether or > not a language *without* the input from something like the Farbenlehre or > nationalist language policy would ever see purple as red + blue. > > Also, "redyellow" does not usually mean "orange" in English, although it > wouldn't be a stretch for poetic license to use it that way. It usually > means "red and yellow mixed", as in a sunrise.
Well, it was you who were categorical in your claim that no natlang is going to see orange as red + yellow, and I asked you _why_ you are so sure about that, because orange _is_ objectively the colour perception that results from the fusion of the basic visual percepts RED + YELLOW. The same goes for purple, which _is_ the fusion of RED + BLUE, so for languages to be expected to _never_ see it that way, that is, to be expected to never acknowledge the _objective_ nature of the purple or orange composite perceptions, I think there should be a _very_ good reason, which is what I ask you to provide. Cheers, Javier

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