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Re: transcription questions

From:Roger Mills <romilly@...>
Date:Friday, December 13, 2002, 5:33
Iblisset wrote:


> I have two sounds I'm having trouble transcribing:
> "hk". This is a sound made by exhaling and quickly stopping the flow of air by pressing the rear of the tongue to the roof of the mouth. It isn't voiced and it isn't a clicking sound, and I'm not sure how to transcribe it.
> "tth". This is a lot like [T], but has a kind of hissing / daffy-duck
quality to it. "hk" - preaspirated. I assume it has to follow a vowel, otherwise you might have either articulatory difficulties, or analytical difficulties (is the aspiration part of the preceding consonant or of the -k?). I've read the various responses to this-- personally I don't get any friction (no [hxk] etc.), though I can if I'm sloppy.. The one language I know of that has (non-phonemic) preaspirates, has them intervocallically, in the env "stressed V____unstressed V", e.g. (fake data) ['so(h)pa, 'sa(h)ka] /sopa, saka/. Assuming it has to follow a vowel, then the "h" portion could be represented, if necessary, as a period of voiceless offset to the vowel. How this would look in SAMPA I have no idea. In a quick-and-dirty field situation, it would be enough to write a superscript h before the consonant. "tth" if I read you a-right, is one of my favorite sounds. _Dental affricate_, dental [t] with dental fricative [T] release, so [tT]. Then again, it might just be a strongly aspirated dental [t]-- the aspirated release of the stop across the compressed tip of the tongue/teeth is going to produce a [T] like turbulence anyway.

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