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Re: "Usefull languages"

From:J Y S Czhang <czhang23@...>
Date:Wednesday, February 20, 2002, 20:48
In a message dated 2002.02.19 07.33.47 PM, cowan@MERCURY.CCIL.ORG writes:

>Padraic Brown scripsit: >> Am 19.02.02, J Y S Czhang yscrifef: >> >> > b.> IMHO it is a better constitution than most - including the >> > American one. >> >> OK. You've got my interest. What's the url?
Christophe has the URL. I lost some of my favourite URL addresses after my AOL and 'puter crashed recently (AiYaH!).
>> > I really like the fact that the Dutch constitution was actually >> > created by the input of the people living in the Netherlands rather >than just >> > an elitist cabal of politicians, capitalists, technocrats, militarists, >> > police, priests, etc. creating a constitution behind closed doors and >then >> > foisting it on "their" people and saying: "we know what is best for >you, so >> > stop whining about 'democracy' and shutup." >> >> Totally ignores the history of the moment: there had _never_ been >> a C like it before the US one; the Netherlands had a couple >> centuries of history and scads of constitutions and dozens of >> constitutional congresses to look at for help; that elitist cabal >> _was_ elected (if imperfectly by 21st century standards) and the >> whole thing _was_ ratified by reps from the States; closed doors >> is interesting - I wonder if they could have even done it at all >> with 100% public scrutiny. But anyway...
I shoulda been more clear that I was referring to more recent constitutions other than the American "paradigm."
>> > BTW I learned to read from the _Curious George_ series and Sendak's >> > _Where the Wild Things Are_. My Mum thinks this explains a lot about >my early >> > childhood development and core-character. >> >> Definitely two excellent sources to learn from!
It was my dad's idea that I learn to read from anything that caught (& kept) my interest since my mother was loath to use the Dick & Jane book series and had no clue what to get me to read. Besides my dad liked the look of the Curious George series... somewhat simian -er - similar to the young Chinese Monkey King-God SunWuKong ;)
>> > One of my favourite items in my linguistics collection is a brochure >that >> > came with my French press for coffee-making :) The brochure is in 12 >> > languages! (Mostly European languages, but Japanese, Russian, Korean >and >> > Chinese are also represented). >> >> Unhappily, it seems that actual instruction content is reduced to >> 'figure it out yourself' because of all the languages they have >> to publish the instruction book in. Not that I'm complaining, >> mind. Such things are easy enough to sort out; and it's fun to >> see how they translate (or completely screw up the >> translation! of) things into other languages. I also note that a >> lot of product labels (especially foods) are found in both >> English and French.
Oh this brochure is well written (& clearly illustrated, too). But any person who really seriously loves their coffee should already know how to use a French press, so the brochure is sort of like "over-kill" ;)
>> > czHANg23 >> >> > musical mad scientist >> >> What weird and terrible concoction have you come up with now? ;)
Workin' on gettin' a demotape/CD goin' - music dedicated to the TricksterGods - sometime before the end of this Summer, ::crosses fingies:: hopefully... It's been 7 years since I have actually recorded anything more than "sketches." More details when they develop, if they develop... czHANg @A@A@A@A@A@A@A@A@A@A@A@A@A "An anarchist society, a society which organizes itself without authority, is always in existence, like a seed beneath the snow, buried under the weight of the state and its bureacracy, capitalism and its waste, privilege and its injustices, nationalism and its suicidal loyalities, religious differences and their superstitious separatism." ~~~ Colin Ward "Logic, organization, government should all be forgotten inasmuch as they begin themselves by making us forget the essential. ... We should learn to live without working. That would mean we would have to live creatively." ~~~ John Cage ~ thee Tru Priz ov Existenz iz Ætern'l Warfær 'n' Creativ Playf'llniz~

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