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Re: "Usefull languages"

From:Kieth Gaughan <kgaughan@...>
Date:Wednesday, February 13, 2002, 15:50
Hey y'all. I'm back on the list and posting from my new work email
address, hence the misspelling of my first name as `Kieth' rather
than `Keith'. My other email address,, is
still valid.

From: Stephen Mulraney [mailto:ataltanie@OCEANFREE.NET]

<snipping explaination of why Irish orthography actually rocks>

> > And Old Irish is worse, where one letter > > can represent three sounds: c = /c/, /g/, /X/. for example, > nemed 'sacred > > grove' from Gaulish nemeton, is pronounced /neveD/. > > Interesting... must study OI some day. What you say makes it look > systematic rather than just bad ;). Maybe the palatalised/velarised > distinction, e.g. of /c'/ vs. /c/, arose as allophones conditioned by > surrounding vowels, where the allophones became phonemes as a > result of > a change in the vowel system removing the conditioning environment.
I think there is a good reason for the the distinction in the old system. I don't have a copy of Thurneysen here in the office, but I'm sure somebody who does will mention it. If not, I'll look it up tonight and post something tomorrow. Get a copy of Thurneysen's Old Irish Grammar. I snapped a copy up in the Waterstones in UCC for next to nothing. I'm sure you could get it somewhere. It's rather hard going and a bit heavy, but a great grammar reference.
> (I know what I'm trying to say but it's sufficently vague to make > difficult to verbalise... I have a feeling that the > preceeding paragraph > just means "Perhaps the p/v distinction arose by, like ... > some process, > ye know?" ;) ) > > Time to go to bed, methinks (yeah, it's 2am, but I'm not going to send > until the morning, hence the date on the mail)
Cripes! I'm just after getting it and it's 3:30 (pm) here. I'm in Ireland and I presumed you were too, Ocean Free email address and everything. Late mail?


Stephen Mulraney <ataltanie@...>