Re: help! phonology...

> [large snip]
>
> > > contemplating using these Romanizations:
> > >
> > > tj for /c/
> > > sj for /C/
> >
> > Ick.  Remind me, why not use {c} for /c/ and {k} for /k/?
>
> I *am* using {k} for /k/.  I guess I could use {c}, it just looks very
> strange to me.  <shaking head>  My problem is that a) Chevraqis is used
> in the names in a fantasy novel that I someday mean to submit for
> publication and b) since the thing has been in drafts for the past 7
> years, I've gotten used to a certain "look" in the names.  I may just
> have to get used to it.  Grr.  I hate Roman transcriptions.  I also hate
> the fact that when I first devised the sound-set for Chevraqis I went
> about it all wrong and it was too closely tied to English and Korean (the
> only sound-sets I felt familiar enough with to deal with other than
> French, which I didn't want to use).
>
> I was thinking that "c" wouldn't suggest /c/ to the average reader...but
> then again, the average reader picks his/her own pronunciation for Weird
> Fantasy Names, so I may as well follow IPA.  Thanks!
Reading this, now I'm not sure that *I* have the correct pronunciation for
[c].  I thought it was a stop acoustically very similar to [k],
articulated with the body of the tongue against the hard palate.  It's the
allophone of /k/ that occurs in my pronounciation of English /kip/.  Is
this right?

Wait!  Playing around, I've discovered another sound that I don't know the
symbol for.  I have these voiceless stops:

* blade of the tongue against the alveolar ridge.  This is [t]
* body of the tongue pressed continuously against the alveolar ride and
hard palate.  Is *this* [c]?
*body of the tongue only against the hard palate.  Is *this* [c]?
*body of the tongue against the soft palate, or velum.  This is [k].

What's going on here?  What are the second and third sounds I described?

>
> YHL
>
Jesse S. Bangs jaspax@u.washington.edu
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