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Re: pens (was Phoneme winnowing continues)

From:Tristan McLeay <kesuari@...>
Date:Sunday, June 8, 2003, 15:08
Mark J. Reed wrote:

>On Sun, Jun 08, 2003 at 11:22:15AM +1000, Tristan McLeay wrote: > > >>[2]: In your dialect ['black ban'] may assonate perfectly. It doesn't it >>mine. 'dad' and 'bad' don't even rhyme in mine. >> >> > >In mine, 'black ban' does assonate perfectly (although, as I mentioned >earlier, 'black bag' doesn't). What's the difference between the 'a's >in yours? And is it the same as the difference between "dad" and "bad" >(which are perfect rhymes in my speech)? >
Same difference, yes. One of length. Black is /bl&k/, ban is /b&:n/, dad is /d&d/, bad is /b&:d/. Length stops rhyming in my dialect, or at least makes it sound off. It shows that whatever it is that is rhyming is from another dialect, at any rate. So I guess it does stop rhyming, but we still recognise that they rhyme in other dialects. (In other languages with a long-short distinction, does length stop rhyming?) -- Tristan <kesuari@...>