Re: pens (was Phoneme winnowing continues)
|From:||Tristan McLeay <kesuari@...>|
|Date:||Sunday, June 8, 2003, 15:08|
Mark J. Reed wrote:
>On Sun, Jun 08, 2003 at 11:22:15AM +1000, Tristan McLeay wrote:
>>: In your dialect ['black ban'] may assonate perfectly. It doesn't it
>>mine. 'dad' and 'bad' don't even rhyme in mine.
>In mine, 'black ban' does assonate perfectly (although, as I mentioned
>earlier, 'black bag' doesn't). What's the difference between the 'a's
>in yours? And is it the same as the difference between "dad" and "bad"
>(which are perfect rhymes in my speech)?
Same difference, yes. One of length. Black is /bl&k/, ban is /b&:n/, dad
is /d&d/, bad is /b&:d/. Length stops rhyming in my dialect, or at
least makes it sound off. It shows that whatever it is that is rhyming
is from another dialect, at any rate. So I guess it does stop rhyming,
but we still recognise that they rhyme in other dialects. (In other
languages with a long-short distinction, does length stop rhyming?)