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Re: "easiest" languages, SE Asian word-order typologies (was Rating Languages)

From:J Y S Czhang <czhang23@...>
Date:Wednesday, September 26, 2001, 4:44
In a message dated 23.09.2001 08:10:52 PM, cowan@MERCURY.CCIL.ORG writes:

>AFAIK the big syntax differences between Standard Mandarin on the one >hand, and Southern Mandarin and the other Sinitic langs on the other, >are these: the latter group puts DO before IO, adverb after verb, >and the tendency to create noun+adj compounds instead of adj+noun >(Mandarin gong1ji1 vs. Cantonese kaikong 'rooster'). These tendencies >strengthen as one goes south, and may result from Tai influence (they are >all typical Tai features).
I hadda sneakin' suspicion from all the lil I DO know of these languages that there was a general tendency of SE Asian languages to be "head-first"/right-branching languages (pretty much in-line with Greenberg's universals regarding verb-initial languages... nicely odd that ... ). Accordin' to quite some data & theories, Archaic Chinese was somewhat influenced by south-eastern languages (esp'ly Tai-Kadai). The 1st Sino-Tibetan speakers settled the Yellow River Valley region about 5,000 yrs. ago. The Chinese language had its start when these Sino-Tibetans interacted with these unknown aboriginal peoples (probably protoTai-Kadai & related peoples) who they meet there. So I think Archaic Chinese had it's start as a pidgin & then around the Shang Dynasty (1700 - 1100 BCE, roughly) it was well on its way to bein' a native language (at least for the Han). Wonder what influences coulda made Mandarin become such a "head-final"/left-branching language (modifier(s) + head word) ? czHANg ponderin' the big weirdnesses & mysteries of Sino-linguistics