Re: Strictly OT - conworlding with 92% or thereabouts commonality with curren...
|From:||Wesley Parish <wes.parish@...>|
|Date:||Tuesday, January 8, 2008, 9:11|
Quoting Jim Henry <jimhenry1973@...>:
> On Jan 6, 2008 8:02 AM, <MorphemeAddict@...> wrote:
> > In a message dated 1/6/2008 5:08:19 AM Central Standard Time,
> > wes.parish@PARADISE.NET.NZ writes:
> > > So a mathematics that privileges the prime numbers instead of the
> > > would have a much greater range of physical variation/s than a
> universe with
> > > the
> > > opposite focus. A much more detailed explanation of the idea can be
> > Mathematics doesn't 'privilege' any particular. Numbers don't have a
> > until and unless someone chooses a base to express them in.
> I don't fully understand what he's talking about, but my impression
> is that he's not using "base two" in the usual sense.
> He wrote in his original post:
> >>What I'm thinking of is a skewed set of basic physical laws where the
> mathematical progression is not the binary
> into infinity, but instead the integer prime sequence having prime
> and the binary sequence being of secondary importance.
> I can't figure out what he's talking about exactly, -- do the primes
> exist without being embedded in and defined by
> the sequence of natural numbers, in his world? --
> but he doesn't seem to be using "binary" and "base two"
> in the usual sense to denote a notational method, but rather
> to denote the counting numbers or natural numbers as
> opposed to the primes.
> Wesley, can you explain further?
My concept, idea, whathaveyou, comes from something I realized after taking up
mathematics for a degree about ten years ago - that half of the integers were
divisible by two, the other half were not divisible by any such overarching
factor. And of that other half, a certain percentage were not divisible by
anything except themselves and the number one.
The term "The binary sequence" derives from that, my humble apologies to anyone
who I confused - it directly relates to that fact, that two divides half the
integers, and nothing even remotely equivalent divides the other half of the
As far as the primes go, and as far as my conworlding goes, I would link it to
fractals - in so far as I understand anything about fractals - and say for this
world, the primes are the linkages for the fractals/chaos to the "Euclidean"
world of common perception. And the "binary sequence" doesn't play any such
role in this conworld, which I am happy to say, is just a thought-experiment of
mine own, with no relation to any "real" world.
As far as "privileging" any base goes, I was always worried about the use of
binary in computers as an adolescent, mostly because it didn't seem to take into
account of the alternate value "maybe" and even some others that I didn't think
of at the time. But "fuzzy logic" seems to have answered that, with scales of
values expressed in binary logic.
Just my 0.02c, FWLIW!
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