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Re: CHAT: Guessing games (was: Middle English question)

From:Lars Henrik Mathiesen <thorinn@...>
Date:Tuesday, August 24, 1999, 6:27
> Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 15:28:01 -0600 > From: dirk elzinga <dirk.elzinga@...>
> On Mon, 23 Aug 1999, Lars Henrik Mathiesen wrote: > > [?] is a glottal gesture that > > occurs on the last voiced part of a syllable --- which may be after > > the vowel proper, on a nasal or liquid for instance --- and consists > > of a transition from clear phonation to almost complete interruption > > of air flow, and a return to _creaky_ phonation). >=20 > This is st=F8d, right? I understand that occurence of st=F8d is cognate w=
> the tonal stuff going on in neighboring Northern Germanic languages, but > not being a Germanicist myself, can't be sure about this.
Right. The common origin is an accent difference between old mono- and disyllabic stems, which merged during the syncope period (600 to 800 CE). Of course, once it was lexicalized as a feature, it spread and narrowed and moved around the lexicon in the usual unpredictable way, and after a thousand years the distribution can be very different from one dialect to another a few miles away. So I don't think knowing the tonal accents of Modern Swedish will be any great help with placing the st=F8d in Modern Danish. Anyway, I avoided the name 'st=F8d' because I wanted to focus on a more explicit phonetic description. But it may be useful to note that like other types of accent it's a feature of the phonetic word, and readily gets lost in compounding and derivation --- so my use of an IPA symbol for the consonant 'glottal stop' /glO?l=3DstVp_}/ is a bit misleading. Lars Mathiesen (U of Copenhagen CS Dep) <thorinn@...> (Humour NOT marke= d)