Re: Pronouns revised and word generation
| From: | Tristan Alexander McLeay <anstouh@...> |
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| Date: | Friday, January 4, 2002, 2:30 |
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On Fri, 4 Jan 2002, jogloran wrote:
> <<
> Australian English has one word with /Q:/ in it: `gone'. Dictionaries
> that
> use the IPA, too scared to admit long-short distinctions when they're
> there, give the pronounciation as /gOn/, but it by no means rhymes
> with
> either `born' or `tonne'. And it's not going out of use.
>
> Tristan
> >>
>
> Hmm, my Macquarie dict., which represents general Australian
> pronounciation with IPA has /gQn/ for it, but the dictionary doesn't
> make length distinctions for any words anyway..
Yes, I know. /DE: tu: skE:d/ to admid such a thing as phonemic length.* I
don't know where our copy of the Macquarie dictionary has gone, so I was
going by memory, but I know I've seen it in an Australian dictionary
(maybe the Australian Oxford?) somewhere as /O/. At any rate, `gone' is
not `gawn' nor `gon' nor `goan'. It has a phoneme all to itself, so it
still illustrates the point.
* Which is okay (that is, they use /V/ for /A/ and /a/ for /A:/, for
example) in most places except with `gone' and words with /{:/, such as
`mad' /m{:d/ because words such as `dad' are /d{d/, so there isn't any way
to tell them apart if they just write /m{d/ and /d{d/.
Tristan