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Re: The Need for Debate

From:Thomas R. Wier <trwier@...>
Date:Wednesday, December 8, 2004, 16:36
From:    And Rosta <a.rosta@...>
> Tom Wier: > > As Ray has already noted, this spawned > > great debates, so great in fact that a papal bull was issued in 1272 > > and again in 1277 banning certain topics of debate in the University > > of Paris (not, notably, banning them in general), not so much to > > suppress dissent (the Pope himself had taught there and was a moderate > > theologically IIRC), but to keep tempers to a manageable level. > > By analogy, then, this would make John Cowan the (of course, very > liberal) pope of Conlang. Pope John II, to be exact -- successor to > Pope John I, Pope Lars, and Pope David.
Incidentally, the Pope who promulgated the latter bull of 1277 was also a John -- John XXI this time -- who was the first and so far only Lusitanian to sit on the throne of St. Peter. Also interestingly, there never was a Pope John XX; people lost track sometime in the 11th century and misnumbered this one and the next (d. 1334). I suppose this may have been a factor in people waiting over 600 years before naming another one (John XXIII, who died in 1963). It would appear our own list's Pontiff has an illustrious nomenclature behind him. ========================================================================= Thomas Wier "I find it useful to meet my subjects personally, Dept. of Linguistics because our secret police don't get it right University of Chicago half the time." -- octogenarian Sheikh Zayed of 1010 E. 59th Street Abu Dhabi, to a French reporter. Chicago, IL 60637

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