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Re: Isolating languages

From:Caleb Hines <bachmusic1@...>
Date:Sunday, May 29, 2005, 2:50
Thanks for the thoughts, everyone.

I may have been a bit unclear. It seems people thought I was looking for
non-tonal, but mono-syllabic isolang. I'm not really planning on it being
monosyllabic. In fact, I was hoping there were very isolating langs that
weren't monosyllabic, because I don't know if monosyllabic can be done
without using tones, which I don't want to have. In retrospect, it seems
like a silly question to have asked, but at the time, I was looking at sites
that kept mentioning Chinese, etc.

>> My current ideas are: >> Tentative name: G'nan >> Morphology: Isolating >> Typology: SOV/Po/GN/AN, with alternate SVO. >> (Seriously consdiering making SVO the primary word >> order) > >How strange! I was working on a conlang called Gi-nàin >for a while, until it 'evolved' into my current one, >Nèm. Both were isolating, SOV and, so some degree, tonal!
Interesting indeed! The idea for the name "G'nan" came from my trying to remember the typology: GN/AN -> G'nan. At one point I was going to have it be the opposite (NG/NA) and was tentatively calling it (you guessed it) "Nigna". But NG/NA is so heavily associated with type I (VOS) natlangs, such as Semitic and Celtic, that I decided to swap it around. How do you handle keeping S and O straight? For me, one of the problems arises because genitive constructs are consecutive nouns that have no case marking. Other problems I haven't quite solved yet arise when I want to treat a series of nouns as a list of items (without conjunctions) instead of a genitive construct, and when I want to state equality of two items (without a copula). I've discovered that I have much less trouble if I introduce an ergativity particle for transitive verbs, although this won't solve everything. I'll probably have to either rely on context for disambiguation, or introduce more particles. ~Caleb "Prepositions are great things to end sentences with!"

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