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Re: Kinship system

From:Sylvia Sotomayor <terjemar@...>
Date:Monday, December 29, 2008, 3:04
Do you have gmail? Do you want gmail? It's free. Then you can open it
up as a google doc.
-S

On Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 5:53 PM, Jeffrey Jones <jsjonesmiami@...> wrote:
> It sounds interesting. Unfortunately my computer can't read Word docs. > Maybe image files? And the pdf is coming up blank, so I can't even see that. > > Jeff > > On Sun, 28 Dec 2008 01:24:24 -0500, Amanda Babcock Furrow > <langs@...> wrote: > >>Wanting to beef up mërèchi for possible use in a reverse relay, I set out >>to fill out the kinship terminology. I realized the first task was to >>choose a kinship system. Next, I changed it up and added (I thought) a >>dimension (ANADEW, as it turns out), and made it more baroque than my >>sources, as is the mërèchi way. >> >>The result is diagrammed in two Word documents (I know, v. lame, is there >>an open-source general diagram-drawing program superior to Word's > AutoShapes?) >>presenting a full set of grandparents' descendants for a male and a female >>"ego" (plus some great-grandparents). The basic kinship system I was >>inspired by was the Iroquois, but with an additional dimension (beyond >>gender, generation and cross-ness) of relative age whenever siblings are >>involved. (I considered also marking relative age between endpoints, but >>decided not to.) I was also keeping in mind that the Dravidian system, >>said to be a version of the Iroquois, permitted uncle-niece marriage as >>a type of cross-cousin marriage, which informed my choices about how to >>represent older branches versus younger branches of the tree. >> >>(Tonight I found a fuller description of actual practice among most >>Dravidian groups said to be using the "Dravidian" system, which indeed >>does use relative age, and takes it a step farther than I had done - >>using both seniority-between-parent-and-their-sibling, which I do use, >>and seniority-between-endpoints, which I didn't, and the system described >>therein looks fully as complex, though for different reasons, as what I >>ended up with; at http://www.csas.ed.ac.uk/fichiers/GOOD_Kinship.pdf >>for the curious.) >> >>I constructed my system along the basic principles that: younger siblings, >>and relatives reached via younger siblings, are generally referred to by >>terms which indicate relative gender but not absolute gender; elder >>siblings, and relatives reached via elder siblings, are generally referred >>to by terms which indicate absolute rather than relative gender, as a >>mark of respect; and marriagable cousins have more specific names (all >>gender-specific) than either parallel or same-gender cousins. Parental- >>child (and grandparental) names indicate same-genderedness where it exists >>and also mark gender, thus creating kinds of children, parents and >>grandparents which can only exist in relationship to one gender or the other. >> >>I'm afraid I don't have time tonight to describe the whole system in >>words, but the charts are at >>http://www.quandary.org/~langs/merechi/kinship.tomo.doc for the view from >>the male viewpoint, and >>http://www.quandary.org/~langs/merechi/kinship.tora.doc for the view from >>the female viewpoint. >> >>A few points are not obvious in the chart: >> >>. double-ended arrows connect the main, bolded person's parents to their >> positions among their siblings; each parent is represented twice >>. grandparents refer to grandchildren as children >>. relatives by marriage are referred to by the blood-relative's name or >> title followed by the suffix -dòna for a junior spouse, or -íntat >> for a senior spouse >>. the suffix -nídit on a name or title refers to that person's entire >> descendant tree >>. the suffix -sèbit on a name or title refers to that person's entire >> same-gender descendant tree (plus opposite-gender leaf nodes) >>. the list of marriagable cousins is: cöpíli, úpla, pilúla, súmli, damúl, >> and símpë >>. the list of unmarriagable cousins is: mísë, sasàtë, kanlí, mèlë, >> löpàla, simílë >> >>And that's all for tonight. >> >>tylakèhlpë'fö, >>Amanda >
-- Sylvia Sotomayor terjemar@gmail.com www.terjemar.net