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nasal(ized) taps and flaps

From:dirk elzinga <dirk.elzinga@...>
Date:Thursday, June 14, 2001, 22:37
While de-lurking briefly, I found this.

On Thu, 14 Jun 2001, David Peterson wrote:

> And another thing, why can't there be a nasal flap? The /n/ > in "never" sounds a lot different than the "nn" in > "running". If I were to replace both with a stop-like > sound, "never" would get a /d/, "dever", and "running" would > definitely get a flap. Am I just crazy that I can hear and > feel this difference?
You are not crazy, and there is in fact such a thing as a nasal flap (or tap), though it's probably best to call it a nasalized flap, for aerodynamic reasons. Some varieties of English (like mine) distinguish 'winter' from 'winner' only by the presence of a nasalized flap in the former and a [n] in the latter, at least in casual speech. Gosiute (a dialect of Shoshoni) also has a voiceless nasal tap as a realization of underlying /hn/ intervocalically: /sukkuhnai/ -> [sukUR~ai] 'over there' (where <r> is a tap, <~> is nasalization of the preceding segment, and capitalization represents voicelessness) Blew my mind the first time I heard it, but it makes perfect sense (at least in the speech of the person I heard it from). Re-lurkingly, Dirk -- Dirk Elzinga "The strong craving for a simple formula has been the undoing of linguists." - Edward Sapir


Eric Christopherson <rakko@...>