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Re: [conculture] Names of countries and national languages

From:Benct Philip Jonsson <conlang@...>
Date:Sunday, September 23, 2007, 13:56
Thanks to everybody who answered me.  I dunno how
Afghanistan could slip my memory!

As for India both _India, Hind, Hindi_ and _Hindu_
are of course derived from the same base, namely
the Old Persian form of the name of the river
Indus (it's _Sindhu_ in Sanskrit).  At the same time
it is of course true that _Bharat_, the official name
of India has nothing to do with the _(s|h)?ind_ root.
It is also interesting to note that India redrew her
map on the basis of linguistic areas, but that only
in some cases do the names of linguistic groups and
their union states derive from the same base.

On 2007-09-23 Benct Philip Jonsson wrote:
> The one real exception I can think of is España-- > castellano, and even there the language is called español > more often than not, at least outside Spain where the > sensibilities of speakers of other languages of Spain > isn't an issue.
I've decided that the example of España--castellano (and of Iran--Farsi) is strong enough to keep the name _Rhodray/Rhodrese_, which I have grown attached to, for the Romance language of the country _Borgonze_, while the name of the Germanic language will be _Borgondesca/Borgondesc_. The _estregn_ will of course call Rhodrese _Burgundiano/Bourgignon_, and to the extent they are at all aware of Borgondesc they will call it _Burgundesco/Bourgondique_. The question is what to call Borgondesc in English. The Inglisc of the ATL is probably less Romance- influenced and so will use _Burgundisc_ /'b3(r)g@ndIS/ for both the Germanic and the Romance language, while linguists and historians will speak of _Burgundisc Theedsc_ and _Rhodrisc_ to distinguish them. _Burgundisc Theedsc_ is of course strictly a misnomer for an ultimately East Germanic language, but it has tradition behind it. Wow, I guess this calls for a table... /BP 8^)> -- Benct Philip Jonsson -- melroch atte melroch dotte se ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ a shprakh iz a dialekt mit an armey un flot (Max Weinreich)

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