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Re: Velarization

From:Andreas Johansson <andjo@...>
Date:Tuesday, May 29, 2007, 14:50
Quoting Benct Philip Jonsson <conlang@...>:

> Andreas Johansson skrev: > > Quoting Benct Philip Jonsson <conlang@...>: > > > >> BTW some varieties of Swedish have what boils down to a > >> three-way distinction between /s`_G/~/s`/~/s\/. > >> > > > > This doesn't sound like anything I'm familiar with ... > > would you expand a bit on it? > > s`_G is merely an in context more revealing notation for x\.
*headdesk* I should realized it was a realization of /x\/. I was speculating if it might be some bizarro reflex of *rD or the like.
> You got minimal pairs > > - /x\/ - /s\/ stjärna - kärna > - /x\/ - /s`/ page - pars > > AFAIK there is no /s`/ - /s\/ minimal pair, due to the > distributional oddities of those phonemes, but most native > speakers would agree they're distinct.
Indeed. To complicate matters, certain 'lects, notably my own, have what might be termed the "split sj" - /x\/ is realized with a dark (back) allophone at the beginning of a syllable and with a light (front) at the end of one, sometimes also at the end of a morpheme as in _krascha_. The catch is that the 'light sj' tends to assume the same pronunciation as the tj-sound. Using my own (not entirely typical) pronunciation as an example, your example words come out as: x&:n`a ~ S&:n`a pA:S ~ pA:s` In fact, I see no strong reason that the light sj should be considered an allophone of dark sj rather than of tj in such 'lects. Andreas


Benct Philip Jonsson <conlang@...>