Re: CHAT: Blandness (was: Uusisuom's influences)

On Fri, 6 Apr 2001, Barry Garcia wrote:

> CONLANG@LISTSERV.BROWN.EDU writes:
> >The sound represented by upside down "m" is also the "u" in Japanese but
> >even the teachers at our school, both of which have lived in Japan for
> >many
> >years seem to have some of their sounds (specifically the Japanese
> >alveolar
> >flap represented by IPA "fish-hook R") a bit off what one would call that
> >of
> >a native.
>
> to me it alwas sounded like a flat u.
<blink>  I find the difference between [u] and "upside down m"  easy to hear
and make...but then, I still can't roll r's very well.

YHL