Re: CHAT: Blandness (was: Uusisuom's influences)

David Peterson wrote:
>In a message dated 4/5/01 10:05:16 PM, Barry_Garcia@MONTEREY.EDU writes:
>
><< The World's Writing Systems book I have says that the turkish dotless I
>is
>
>"close, back, unrounded" vowel. In the kirschenbaum system, it's /u-/.
>
>Apparently SAMPA doesnt have a way of representing it. >>
>
>No matter how much I unround my lips, the upside down "m" (the sound in
>question) always sounds like [u] still.  It seems like I can make the sound
>independent of whatever my lips want to do.  Maybe if I heard someone do
>it...
Don't you think it's rather the ear-controlling part of your brain that
refuses to note the difference. Our brains are, after all, designed to
recognize phonemes, not phones.

                                              Andreas
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