Re: CHAT: Blandness (was: Uusisuom's influences)

Ferenc Valoczy wrote:
>On Sat, 7 Apr 2001, Andreas Johansson wrote:
>
> > > >
> > > > Växjö (note the umlauts) is pronounced /vEkS2/.
> > >
> > >Bloody Pine I can't write any diacritics, I can't even write my own
>name
> > >properly (there should be acutes on the a and the o)...so even if one
>sez
> > >/xwuk/ for {sjuk} he sayz /vEks2/...?
> >
> > [xwuk] for "sjuk"? That's not standard Swedish at any rate. I say
>something
> > like [x\}:k] (ugly SAMPA!). Note that the PHONEME /S/ is REALIZED as
>[x\] by
> > most speakers, tho' you can even hear [S], [s`] and even [C] in various
> > dialects. Personally I have an [x\] that's very close to [x]. Växjö is
> > something like [vEk"x\2:] in my variety.
> >
>
>Sorry about my inaccurate writing there, I should probably look at the
>SAMPA list again...I was sitting there for a good 20 minutes trying to
>figure out how to write it, then decided to write xw though thats not
>nearly the sound...
Well, [xw] is not totally off, since [x\_w] occures in some varieties. My
reaction was partly motived by /u/ for the vowel of "sjuk" - it's most
definitely long, and /u/ is usually employed for the close, back, rounded
vowel usually spelled {o} (to really confuse people, {o} can denote /o/,
/o:/, /u/ and /u:/, not to mention [@] in reduced endings ...). In SAMPA
phonemic spelling I'd probably write /S}:k/.

                                                          Andreas
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