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Explicit fuzziness (was: Re: ConNumbers)

From:Joshua Shinavier <ajshinav@...>
Date:Thursday, June 10, 1999, 8:43
> Interesting! I know that fuzzy systems mathematicians have worked out > perfectly usable systems of "fuzzy numbers," where "fuzzy one," "fuzzy > two," and "fuzzy three" and so on are actually graded categories with > peaks at the points we would call one, two, and three respectively, > and decreasing degree-of-membership curves as you move away from that. > (For example, what we call the number "two" could be expressed in > such a system as either "fuzzy two to degree 100%" or "fuzzy one to > degree 20%" (or some similarly low number) or "fuzzy one hundred to > degree damn close to zero". >=20 > Of course, then you need standard numbers to mark the degree of > categorial membership, but you can fuzzify *those* numbers, and so on > recursively, so you *never* get nailed down to anything! >=20 > We have such numbers in our own natlang vocabulary, of course, but > they're derivative: "about four" or "four-ish" can be expressed as a > fuzzy set which has a membership curve that peaks to 100% at four, and > trails off in either direction. The speed with which it trails off > would depend on context, of course. >=20 > So, yeah, such a system is conceivable, and kind of cool!
One already exists.. and not just for numbers. Danoven/Aroven includes a measurement, a "strength" and an uncertainty system for all conceptual links -- the measurement system may but does not necessarily entail actual quantification, e.g. "the building is *very* high", or "the building is so-many-stories high". The uncertainty factor has to do more with actual quantification, e.g. "the building is 100 stories high, give or take 10 stories", "the glass was *about* half full". The strength has to do with the certainty of both of the preceding descriptions, e.g. "the building is very high, and I *know* that", or "the building is around 100 stories high, or so I'm given to believe". So, if you're going to be uncertain in Aroven, at least you can be *definitely* uncertain :-) Josh _/_/ _/_/ _/_/_/_/ Joshua Shinavier =20 _/ _/ _/ Loorenstrasse 74, Zimmer B321=20 _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ CH-8053 Z=FCrich =20 _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ Switzerland =20 _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ jshinavi@g26.ethz.ch Danov=EBn pages: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Crete/5555/ven.htm