Re: Palatalization

James Worlton wrote:

> For those of you with more phoetic knowledge than I:
>
> (In CSX) What is the difference (if any) between
>
> t_j and c
> d_j and J\
Palatal stops ( [c] and [J\] ) are pronounced with the middle of the
tongue touching the roof of the mouth, while palatalized stops (like
[t_j] or [k_j]) just place the tongue near the roof of the mouth without
touching. I don't know if there are any languages that contrast [t_j]
and [k_j] with [c], or [d_j] and [g_j] with [J\], but palatalized stops
like [t_j] and [d_j] are found in Russian, while the sounds of Hungarian
"ty" and "gy" are said to be palatal stops. Irish has a contrast between
palatalized [t_j] [d_j] and velarized [t_G] [d_G].

Sound samples of the Russian words /vi\t_j/ and /v_jit_j/:

http://hctv.humnet.ucla.edu/departments/linguistics/VowelsandConsonants/course/chapter9/russian/r13.aiff
http://hctv.humnet.ucla.edu/departments/linguistics/VowelsandConsonants/course/chapter9/russian/r14.aiff

And the Hungarian words /cu:k/ and /J\uit/:

http://hctv.humnet.ucla.edu/departments/linguistics/VowelsandConsonants/vowels/chapter13/tyuk.aiff
http://hctv.humnet.ucla.edu/departments/linguistics/VowelsandConsonants/vowels/chapter13/gyujt.aiff

(These links are from the UCLA Phonetics Lab Archive,
http://hctv.humnet.ucla.edu/departments/linguistics/VowelsandConsonants/)