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Re: Anthroponymy (was Re: Re: Laadan)

From:J Y S Czhang <czhang23@...>
Date:Sunday, December 15, 2002, 16:44
In a message dated 2002/12/13 07.21.41 AM, latinfrench@SAGESCHOOL.ORG writes:

>As does Chinese. The reasoning I learned was that you always work >from the largest element to the smallest. This includes dates which >are year, month, day; addresses which are country (if sent from >abroad), province, city or town, street, alley (if extant), house >number, person; and names which are surname, given name. All three >languages work this way AFAIK, and coincidentally, all three have >adjs. preceding their nouns, but I don't know what that means -- I >never thought about it this way before.
Perhaps it is because the adjective is in a sense "larger" than the object it describes & the object is somewhat-to-highly specific. In a sense, the so-call adjective is almost like a classifier-word (or even the initial word in an evolving word-compound). That is the impression I gather from lookin' into Archaic Chinese data and translations. In a message dated 2002/12/13 12.06.16 PM, maurauser@DPG.HU writes:
>All three languages think like the East ( though Hungarian is somewhat >between the West and the East, regarding its way ), whose philosophy is to
know
>the inside of things, (here the names) while the typical european way of
thinking is >to touch the surface and see how it can serve his own purposes and wishes. This is >not bad but different. Yes. True to a certain level. One has to remember that seemingly clear-cut terminology used to describe European languages break-down (and leak) when confronting many non-(Indo-) European languages. I think this may be the case here as well. Hard to tell if the language shapes the world-view or the world-view shapes the language or some mixture of both in a "chaotic feedback loop" (I personally favour the Chaos Theory idea ;) Hanuman Zhang, 3-Toed-Sloth-Style Gungfu Typist ;) "the sloth is a chinese poet upsidedown" --- Jack Kerouac {1922-69} €º°`°º€ø,¸¸,ø€º°`°º€ø,¸¸,ø€º°`°º€ø,¸¸,ø€º°`°º€ø,¸¸,ø€º°`°º€€º°`°º€ø,¸~-> "One thing foreigners, computers, and poets have in common is that they make unexpected linguistic associations." --- Jasia Reichardt "There is no reason for the poet to be limited to words, and in fact the poet is most poetic when inventing languages. Hence the concept of the poet as 'language designer'." --- O. B. Hardison, Jr. "At some point in the next century the number of invented languages will probably overtake the number of surviving natural languages." - Cullen Murphy in _Atlantic Monthly_ (October, 1995) "La poésie date d' aujour d'hui." (Poetry dates from today) "La poésie est en jeu." (Poetry is in play) --- Blaise Cendrars