OT DID & idolect (was: OT Glo'al stops & schizophrenics)
|From:||R A Brown <ray@...>|
|Date:||Thursday, January 19, 2006, 11:51|
Tristan McLeay wrote:
> R A Brown wrote:
>> Mark J. Reed wrote:
>>> On 1/17/06, tomhchappell <tomhchappell@...> wrote:
>>>> A native speaker of my idiolect would never use these; but would
>>>> probably guess what they meant right away.
>>> Uhm, isn't "a native speaker of my idiolect" just a very roundabout
>>> way of saying "I"? :)
> I can think of worse. "A native speaker of the present author's
> idiolect", for instance :)
>> Thought: Do schizophrenics also have multiple idiolects? That is a
>> serious question.
> Not if by "schizophrenics" you mean "people who have schizophrenia", for
> such people have defects in the perception or expression of reality.
> Things like hallucinations, paranoia, disorganised speech, catatonia, a
> flat affect and the like. The "split" in "schizophrenia" refers to the
> separation between the schizophrenic's reality and the one the recent of
> us perceive/interact with.
> You probably mean "people who have dissociative identity disorder"
> (formerly "multiple personality disorder"). I have no idea.
You're are quite correct. Thanks for the clear explanation. I think in
popular usage there is much confusion over these terms, and I was
certainly guilty of this.
I assume from your description of schizophrenia above that there are
different degrees of schizophrenia. Certainly towards the end of his
life my father was given to hallucination, which seem to get
progressively worse; there was indeed a split between his reality and
that which others perceived. But there was certainly no identity disorder.
Anyway, thanks for explanation.
Hanuman Zhang wrote:
> on 1/18/06 7:46 PM, R A Brown at ray@CAROLANDRAY.PLUS.COM wrote:
>>Thought: Do schizophrenics also have multiple idiolects? That is a
> That sounds (pardon the pun) like people with DID (Disassociative
> Disorder) or what used to be called "multiple personalities."
Yes, you right - see above.
I wondered if people with DID do exhibit differences in idiolect in
their different personae. As this is off-topic, maybe I should first do
some Googling on the matter and not add a YAOTT (yet another off-topic
thread) to the list. ;)
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