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Re: Piss Off - Klingon

From:Raymond Brown <ray.brown@...>
Date:Friday, September 29, 2000, 5:42
At 5:03 pm -0400 28/9/00, John Cowan wrote:
>Raymond Brown wrote: > >> Other phrases with similar meanings this side of the pond are: >> "Bog off!" - go far away & use the bog (i.e. lavatory) >> "Sod off!" - go far away & commit sodomy > >How do we understand "Naff off!" (a Princess-Anne-ism) according >to this model?
Not only Princess Anne - other Brits used it before her. But I guess that being the Princess Royal restricts here; she obviously musn't use "F**k off" and both "Piss off" and "Bog off" are too lavatorial for royal lips and royal princesses should not know of sodomy ;) "Naff" is normal used as an adjective here and means: worthless, inferior, vulgar, socially crass. Thus it is appropriate for the Princess Royal to say: "Naff off" = go far away and be your vulgar, socially crass self! The etymology of "naff" is disputed. Two have been suggested: (a) That it originated as slang among the armed forces from Naafi /'n@fi/ (Navy, Army, and Air-Force Institutes), an organization providing canteens for service personnel, thus "naff" contemptuously meant 'shirking'; (b) That it is back-slang for _fan_ (Fanny), a slang term for female genitalia. As the armed forces were, I believe, generally appreciative of the services of the Naafi, I think (b) is far more likely. But I suspect the Princess Royal is unaware of this and, indeed, couldn't care two hoots for etymology. Ray. ========================================= A mind which thinks at its own expense will always interfere with language. [J.G. Hamann 1760] =========================================