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Is this realistic? (Papiamentu, Kele)

From:David J. Peterson <thatbluecat@...>
Date:Friday, July 4, 2003, 4:18
Hey Rob,

<<Perhaps this is becaause both 'ta' and 'a' are derived from verbs and
'lo' is derived from 'logo'/'luego'?>>

Now you've piqued my curiosity.   None of my books list a possible etymology
for "lo", and as a native Spanish speaker, I can't think of where it came
from.   Your theory is a possibility, though how long ago did the o [+streess] >
/wo/ > [we] change happen?   Could it be from Dutch?   I know nothing about
Dutch.   Anyway, it also says that you can only switch the order of the tense and
the pronoun with the 1st, 2nd and 3rd singular pronouns.   So, you could say
/lo mi papia/, but (presumably) not *lo papa papia.   They say the same thing
happens with /bai/ in Tok Pisin.

<<I like pidgins and creoles. Do you have more info on your conlang?>>

Me too!   ~:D   I'm working with Masha Polinsky at UCSD to put on a pidgins
and creoles class in the upcoming winter quarter.   Anyway, I'm afraid all I've
got on Kele is at:

It's not much, and I have a sneaking suspicion that the formatting doesn't
work properly for Internet Explorer (incidentally, if you use IE, and it doesn't
work, and you know something about HTML, could you give me a few hints on how
to make it work cross-platform?).   I'll eventually put up everything, but it
takes a long, long time, I'm now realizing.   So, other than the website, all
other information must come from me, I'm afraid.   I'm working on it, though.
  And when it gets to be at a complete enough stage to have people look at,
I'll announce it to CONLANG.

That's it.   :)



Roger Mills <romilly@...>
Joe <joe@...>