Re: R: Re: R: Re: /H/ (was: An Unknown Conlang)

At 8:27 pm +0200 11/7/00, Mangiat wrote:
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>Thank you for the explanation. I found it really useful.
You're welcome.

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>> (1) I know there are exceptions, but they a largely predictable, e.g.  [s]
>> is retained after a prefix (risultare), in the suffix -oso and its
>> derivatives (curioso, curiosità) and in past participles of certain
>> irregular verbs (raso).
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>This applies in Spanish, I think, not in Italian. We don't have exceptions
>here, at least I think! it's always so difficult to analyze one's own
>language!
Indeed - I was following the "rules" and "exceptions" given in a text book.
But from other sources, I've got the impression that intervocalic single
-s- varies with different Italian speakers and/or in different regions.  As
there is no phonemic difference between [s] and [z] in Italian, I'd guess
native speakers would here the two sounds as "the same sound" in any case -
rather in the way that most native English speakers here the _l_ in 'leaf'
and 'field' as the same sound.

Ray.

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