Re: Wikipedia:Verifiability - Mailing lists as sources
|From:||Benct Philip Jonsson <melroch@...>|
|Date:||Wednesday, February 27, 2008, 18:35|
I would not like to see Langmaker and FrathWiki merged into one. I
think it is a good idea to keep registry and presentation, wiki or
otherwise, separated. They should be interlinked of course, even
extensively so, but not merged. I've recently done some work towards
categorizing and listing all conlangs on FW, and one thing what may
come out of that is making sure that they all are registered on
Langmaker. However last I looked at Langmaker it somewhat suffered
from Jeffrey's lack of time to devote to it. Has this been resolved?
One way obviously would be to have a group of administrators like FW.
2008/2/26, Jörg Rhiemeier <joerg_rhiemeier@...>:
> On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 10:14:24 +0100, Benct Philip Jonsson wrote:
> > On 26.2.2008 Mark J. Reed wrote:
> > > I don't see any reason for most individual conlangs to
> > > have wikipedia entries. Not to say that all the things
> > > that have entries should, but it's just silly. If you
> > > don't know what conlanging is, Wikipedia will tell you and
> > > refer yoiu to several external sites that will lead you to
> > > all sorts of conlangs. There's no need to have articles
> > > for them.
> > Agreed. It is better to devote our energy to making
> > Langmaker into an inventory of artlangs as comprehensive as
> > possible, and make sure it is prominently linked from
> > relevant WP articles (preferably with in-text mention).
> Thirded. Not every individual conlang is noteworthy enough to warrant
> a Wikipedia article. What counts on the Web is that there is a link
> to it - it is secondary where the stuff is actually hosted. It need
> not be on the Wikipedia. An encyclopedic wiki devoted to conlangs
> and conlanging (ideally something like Langmaker and FrathWiki merged
> into one) is certainly a better place for a reference article on a
> conlang that is hardly known outside the conlanging scene.
> There are many, many wikis devoted to particular subject matters,
> and it is only fair that the less prominent subjects within those
> areas are covered not by Wikipedia, but by the specialized wiki
> in question. For example, an article on a minor Star Trek
> character would be placed on Memory Alpha.
> > > Esperanto, Klingon, and Quenya are probably the only ones
> > > that warrant full entries.
> > And Sindarin. After all most names in The Lord of the Rings
> > are Sindarin.
> And perhaps a dozen or so others. But there aren't many conlangs
> widely known by people outside the conlanging community itself.
> If the conlang is known only to other conlangers (and this holds
> with the vast majority of conlangs), it is not Wikipedia-worthy.
> > This said I think deletionism and the insistence that WP
> > articles cite *printed* sources idiotic.
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