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Re: USAGE: Speak-Say-Tell

From:Joe <joe@...>
Date:Wednesday, December 8, 2004, 17:37
Geoff Horswood wrote:

>Hi, > >I was thinking about the English words "speak", "say", "tell" (and "talk"), >and trying to quantify the exact difference between them. > >Specifically, I was wondering whether all the words were strictly necessary >in a language, or whether you could postulate a language with only one word >meaning speak, say, tell or talk, depending on context. How realistic is >this? > >(Kazakh has 3 words: /ajtu/ to speak or tell, /deu/ to say, and /s2jleu/ to >talk, plus the compound /djep ajtu/.) >What about other natlangs? > >
'speak' and 'talk' can have two meanings, depending on their transitivity. a) (intransitive) to say something b) (transitive) To say something in manner X In my idiolect, only 'speak' can take a language as its direct object. Neither of them expect elaboration. eg.. I speak French, I speak to him, I talk nonsense 'say' and 'tell' are intransitive and transitive respectively. However, these expect you to explain exactly *what* you said. I think they would be the best way to quantify it. I think generally most languages collapse one or two of them into the other. Collapsing them all would be fairly simple, and I don't think it would cause too much of a catastrophe.

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John Cowan <jcowan@...>