YAEPT (we can't have enough)
|From:||The Benevolent Dictator <theiling@...>|
|Date:||Monday, March 30, 2009, 22:39|
Reading the [?] thread (I have ['bO?5=] for 'bottle'), and thinking
about my pronunciation of /l/ in final position in English, I noticed
that it  most of the time, but not always. Sometimes, it lacks the
lateral part or it is weak so it comes closer to [w], but not quite.
Comparing with inital /w/, it is something like an unrounded or maybe
semirounded [w] (maybe [M\] or [w_c]), and maybe more open (maybe
[M\_o] or [w_c_o]), because comparing to a vowel, it sounds more like
 than like [u]. The velar constriction seems quite tense, so I'd
categorise it as a syllabic approximant rather than as a vowel.
For example, I have this in 'possible', maybe ['p_hOsIbw_c_o=].
Ok, I'm an L2 speaker, but what do the others on the list do here?