Re: XSAMPA for /ts/?

>Of course, all this is theoretical. In practice, the error bars can be
>large ;))). But I'm curious to know how much time a German 'z' lasts
>compared to simple German phones. I'd guess it's about as long as a simple
>phone, unlike the 'ts' in 'cats'.
Good point, and one which I should know better than to have allowed my mind
to gloss over.

German was my fourth language. In the German which I was taught (which
native speakers tell me is accentless Hoch Deutsch), by following your train
of thought, I realize now that: 'z' of 'Zeit', 'Platz' etc. is [t_s] but
'ts' of 'cats' is [ts] or even [t's] if I force myself back into the accent
I learned as a child.

[t_s] is the sound I had in mind.

Thanks.

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