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Re: XSAMPA for /ts/?

From:Isaac Penzev <isaacp@...>
Date:Friday, April 25, 2003, 12:25
Jan van Steenbergen gir'hit:

> Speaking about affricates, is an affricate by definition a stop followed
by its
> corresponding fricative, or can it also be the other way round? Let's say, > [st], [St], ...
AFAIK no. But i need to consult my favorite Lingvisticheskij enciklopedicheskij slovar' to check it.
> Besides, I think [pf] is not strictly an affricate. A proper affricate
would be
> either [p_p\] (labial) or [p*_f], where p* is my ad hoc invention for a > labiodental stop. Or am I wrong?
Judging by what i hear from my wife (and they say she has very good German pronunciation), it looks more like [p*_f] (should i write it [p_-_f]?)...
> At last, what would be the proper IPA/X-SAMPA representation for an > alveo-palatal stop, the thing that appears in the Polish affricate <c'>
[t_s\]? Yep. My new project CLP29 is going to have this nice thingy... Btw, guys, linking with [_] makes me think more about diacritics :( Even if [)] is not SAMPA, I think I'm still gonna use it... Yitzik ~~~~~~~~~~~~~