Re: [COMMENT] Coatlalopeuh Phonology/Orthography
|From:||JS Bangs <jaspax@...>|
|Date:||Monday, April 29, 2002, 17:59|
Shreyas Sampat sikyal:
> p [b p^h] t [d t^h] k |c| [g k^h]
> s [S f] S |x| [C] x |h| [C^h h]
> l L |ll| K |tl|
I'm having trouble remembering what [L] is. And [f] as an allophone of
/s/! Very interesting.
> w |o*| r  j |e*|
> *: When syllable-initial, |e, o| become |hi, hu|, |ih, uh| when
So is that why the |peoh| was [buh]?
> Primary stress falls on the character vowel. (Roots are composed of
> two-or-three consonants and a vowel; the vowel appears in every form.) This
Hey! I have a language with those same properties--three consonants and a
vowel are specified, everything else being morphological. Funny that you
came up with the same thing. I do like this idea--it's an interesting
twist on the standard tri-consonantal format.
> When a stop and /j/ come in contact (in contact meaning separated by
> nothing, not even a syllable boundary), the stop becomes voiced and the /j/
> is elided.
This is very interesting, and I like it. It's unexpected and creative,
but still quite believable.
> When a stop and /w/ come in contact, the stop becomes aspirated and the /w/
This strikes me as less plausible. Do you have an explanation? I can't
see how labialization would come to be realized as aspiration. I would
also have to see some morphemics to believe this. If I observed the
allophones [p p_h b], it would never occur to me to analyze them as /p pw
pj/ unless there were solid morphological or phonotactic evidence to
> /s/+/j/ > [S^j]
> /s/+/w/ > [f]
> /S/+/j/ > [C]
> /x/+/j/ > [C^h]
> /x/+/w/ > [h]
> /r/ >  in clusters
These are all very nice.
Basically, I would like to see some morphology and some more examples, and
maybe some justification for the cool but surprising consonant
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