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Re: [COMMENT] Coatlalopeuh Phonology/Orthography

From:JS Bangs <jaspax@...>
Date:Monday, April 29, 2002, 17:59
Shreyas Sampat sikyal:

> p [b p^h] t [d t^h] k |c| [g k^h] > s [S f] S |x| [C] x |h| [C^h h] > l L |ll| K |tl|
I'm having trouble remembering what [L] is. And [f] as an allophone of /s/! Very interesting.
> w |o*| r [4] j |e*| > > *: When syllable-initial, |e, o| become |hi, hu|, |ih, uh| when > syllable-final.
So is that why the |peoh| was [buh]?
> Stress: > Primary stress falls on the character vowel. (Roots are composed of > two-or-three consonants and a vowel; the vowel appears in every form.) This
Hey! I have a language with those same properties--three consonants and a vowel are specified, everything else being morphological. Funny that you came up with the same thing. I do like this idea--it's an interesting twist on the standard tri-consonantal format.
> Alternations: > When a stop and /j/ come in contact (in contact meaning separated by > nothing, not even a syllable boundary), the stop becomes voiced and the /j/ > is elided.
This is very interesting, and I like it. It's unexpected and creative, but still quite believable.
> When a stop and /w/ come in contact, the stop becomes aspirated and the /w/ > elided.
This strikes me as less plausible. Do you have an explanation? I can't see how labialization would come to be realized as aspiration. I would also have to see some morphemics to believe this. If I observed the allophones [p p_h b], it would never occur to me to analyze them as /p pw pj/ unless there were solid morphological or phonotactic evidence to support it.
> /s/+/j/ > [S^j] > /s/+/w/ > [f] > /S/+/j/ > [C] > /x/+/j/ > [C^h] > /x/+/w/ > [h] > /r/ > [4] in clusters
These are all very nice. Basically, I would like to see some morphology and some more examples, and maybe some justification for the cool but surprising consonant alternations. Jesse S. Bangs "If you look at a thing nine hundred and ninety-nine times, you are perfectly safe; if you look at it the thousandth time, you are in frightful danger of seeing it for the first time." --G.K. Chesterton


Shreyas Sampat <shreyas@...>