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From:René Uittenbogaard <ruittenb@...>
Date:Sunday, February 13, 2005, 19:56
Hi all,

Today I heard a strong example of agglutination in the speech of a Dutch
speaker. He was saying "op een gegeven ogenblik" (=at a certain moment).
Normally "gegeven ogenblik" is pronounced with six syllables:
[X@'Xev@ 'oX@mblIk]. He pronounced it with three: "geemblik" ['Xem=blIk].

The funny thing is that it remained perfectly comprehensible what he was
saying. I get the impression that if such an agglutinated pronunciation
is spoken rather sloppily, it is easier to understand it than
when it is articulated clearly. I guess that sloppy speech makes the
brain starts making more corrections to what is heard than well
articulated speech.

I had already heard a reduction of "gegeven moment" [X@'Xev@ mo'mEnt]
to "gevement" ['Xev@,mEnt] - a reduction from five syllables to three,
but reducing six to three seems like pushing the limits. Are there many
examples in other languages of reducing six syllables to three?




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