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Re: Branching typologies

From:Thomas R. Wier <trwier@...>
Date:Saturday, September 29, 2001, 0:01
Quoting Frank George Valoczy <valoczy@...>:

> On Fri, 28 Sep 2001, Irina Rempt-Drijfhout wrote: > > > On Friday 28 September 2001 21:15, you wrote: > > > > > Hm. So is Hungarian, with things like "megverethetnelek" derived > > > from the verb "ver-", "beat", polysynthetic? > > > > What I've always heard was that Hungarian is just very very > > agglutinative. > > > > Hm. Possibly I'm not quite catching the distinction, so I'll break > that big word down:
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> I guess my problem here is that I've always assumed that > "agglutinative" applies only to substantives and "polysynthetic" to > verbs...am I wrong?
Well, "agglutinative" describes the general pattern of a language's morphology, specifically the ratio of sememes to morphemes. A perfectly agglutinative language would be 1:1, and some languages (Turkish, Esperanto) come very close to this standard. As for polysynthesis, on the other hand, I think you're right insofar as when languages become polysynthetic, they tend to bunch up most of the semantics of a clause into the verb, but that is a contingent fact, not one that reflects the notion of polysynthesis per se. ============================== Thomas Wier <trwier@...> "If a man demands justice, not merely as an abstract concept, but in setting up the life of a society, and if he holds, further, that within that society (however defined) all men have equal rights, then the odds are that his views, sooner rather than later, are going to set something or someone on fire." Peter Green, in _From Alexander to Actium_, on Spartan king Cleomenes III