Re: Men vs Women on Conlang

----- Original Message -----
From: "Andreas Johansson" <and_yo@...>


> Sally Caves wrote:
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Andreas Johansson" <and_yo@...>
> > > >
> > > >She was Pamnerik of Teon, mistress of horses, slayer of kings, queen
of
> >the
> > > >Black and Caspian Seas; death in her hands, foreseeing in her eyes,
> >mastery
> > > >in her sceptre, seduction and deceit on her lips, justice on her
> >throne.
> > > >:)
> > >
> > > Thanks for the info! Anyway, is it just me, or did she, appart from a
> > > Captain Caveman attitude to politics, have a suspiciously
male-sounding
> > > name? "Pamnerik" sounds more like the name of a midevil Germanic
> >chieftain
> > > than of an ancient Queen.
> >
> >What would one call that?  Phonetically ethnocentric?  :)
>
> Damaged by real-world history, rather.
Apparently! :)  Or those high fantasy novels where female names mostly sound
"feminine" to the English ear.

> >  "Pamnerik" is a
> >character from a long lost novel I wrote when I was about fourteen (total
> >crap), about one of the Feleonim, the winged cats that I used to dwell
on.
> >She was a warrior feline.  Appropriated by humans, her name means "Red
> >River," and can refer to the carnage she leaves behind or her own fatal
> >menstruation.  She is different, however, from the Goddess of War and
> >Strategy.  She has become euhemerized; and yes, she is a medieval,
actually
> >ancient, Chieftain.  Queens can be chieftains.  <G>
>
> Hm, I guess I tend only to use the word "chieftain" of males.
Change your ways!! :-)

> But more sensibly, to me the word "ancient" very strongly suggests
something
> pre-mediaeval.
You said "medieval," so I used it. :)  Since I made her up on the spot (not
the name but the Chieftainess <--there you go!) in order to jest a little (I
think it was you or somebody else who said something like "Next thing you
know somebody will tell me that the most ancient of warriors was a woman"),
you can't blame me for not making up my mind yet in what era I'll put her.
Perhaps "medieval" for the Teonim is "ancient" for us.  There.

Now that I've got her, I've decided she's a river NAMED after some
Amazon-like Queen.  Hippolyta probably predates her.


Sally Caves
scaves@frontiernet.net
Eskkoat ol ai sendran, rohsan nuehra celyil takrem bomai nakuo.
"My shadow follows me, putting strange, new roses into the world."