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Re: Indika and Nihilosc

From:Tristan McLeay <kesuari@...>
Date:Sunday, June 8, 2003, 13:11
Nikhil Sinha wrote:

>Sorry, their orthgraphies are not evil. >
:(
>They are both phonetic. >
:( :(
>But, I would like to create a language with evil orthgraphy. >
:) :)
>Have you created conlang(s)? . I would love to know about it (them) . >
But of course! My first vaguely real conlang was Finnstek. It sits around being thought about. I'm going to write fonts for its myriad of phonetic scripts, which means I'm going to go back to working on it. The most interesting bit of it is that nouns inflect for the tense of verbs and that it lacks anything in the way of back or rounded vowels in the standard dialect, though the many non-standard dialects often have one or the other or both. My next vaguely real conlang is Etabnanni (pronounced /ra2mn&2n/ in CXS with 2=low tone, the local version of X-SAMPA, an ASCIIfied version of the IPA, but essentially how an Australian might pronounce 'rum nan', except with an Italian-style R and low tones). The words etabnannic, etabnannery and various other similar words are used on this list to refer to an orthography that appears irregular but does have a set of rules from which you can accurately deduce the pronunciation of (almost) any word. Like Japanese, it makes use of three scripts: an ideographic one about which nothing is known, the normal, etabnannic one, which is written something like the Korean script, hangul (an alphabet with syllables written in a single box), except that it's etabnannic, often has ligatures, looks much more natural (IMHO), is written right-to-left and larger orthographical syllables may be written in two boxes rather than one. It has a very unstable grammar. Pidse /wiD@/ (like an Aussie/Brit might say 'wither') is an actively worked-on, vaguely real auxiliary language. It has a maggelic orthography. (Maggelic, maggelity and other like words are words used on this list to refer to incredibly irregular orthraphies that not even native speakers should dare to make a guess about the pronunciation of a word, because they'll probably get it wrong. They generally have enough regularity, though, to lead people to believing that there might be a set of rules. It comes from the name of a conlang, Maggel, by Christophe Grandsire.) Each word (other than the pronouns) has at least two different roots, which then inflect for case/number/tense/whatever is relevant. The different roots (and often the inflected forms) cannot be deduced from another, and sometimes root I of one word will be the same as root II of a totally different one (that *must* beat Maggel's worst!). It's written in the Latin alphabet, except that the normal sound-letter correspondences are horribly different. It's based on an IAL called Ygyde, which had a regular orthagraphy/grammar etc. Føtisk (Fo/tisk) is my family of Germanic languages (from Ancient Føtisk to Modern Føtisk). Ancient Føtisk is a West Germanic language; Middle Føtisk was influenced by North Germanic languages yet seems very ungermanic; Modern Føtisk is even weirder. The name or the language is a cognate to the words 'Dutch' and _Deutsch_. It is in very early stages of development and is likely to stay that way till at least July (damned exams). I've made various other sketchlangs, features of which often find their ways into one of the above mentioned four. None of these languages presently has a website. That'll come later. I keep working on one, then work on something else. -- Tristan <kesuari@...>

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