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Re: [Re: [IE conlangs]]

From:Padraic Brown <pbrown@...>
Date:Monday, April 12, 1999, 20:14
On Mon, 12 Apr 1999, Tom Wier wrote:

> Padraic Brown wrote: > > > On Mon, 12 Apr 1999, John Cowan wrote: > > > > > Nik Taylor wrote: > > > > > > > Those two being homophones in Southern American English, /bIn/, of > > > > course. :-) > > > > > > In all U.S. Englishes, I think, except perhaps Eastern New England. > > > > If the originals were "been" and "bin", then they aren't, generally, > > homophones here in Md. Mostly, the one sounds like /bEn/ the other /bIn/. > > I think I've got that right. > > Which is why Nik originally said that they're homophones in Southern > American English, because /E/ just doesn't exist before nasals, except > as an allophonic variant of /&/. (Pronouncing a full /&/ before nasals > sounds positively foreign to me! :) )
Er. Right. Well, Nik said they were homophones in Southern, John thinks they're homophones in all, except NE. Md. is only _barely_ Southern, and certainly not NE. That's why I's saying they _aren't_ here; where we seemingly go against the rest of the country. I may have gotten the symbols wrong, though. For the first, I want a short 'eh'; for the other a short 'ih'. Padraic.
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