Re: [Re: [IE conlangs]]
From: | Padraic Brown <pbrown@...> |
Date: | Monday, April 12, 1999, 20:14 |
On Mon, 12 Apr 1999, Tom Wier wrote:
> Padraic Brown wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 12 Apr 1999, John Cowan wrote:
> >
> > > Nik Taylor wrote:
> > >
> > > > Those two being homophones in Southern American English, /bIn/, of
> > > > course. :-)
> > >
> > > In all U.S. Englishes, I think, except perhaps Eastern New England.
> >
> > If the originals were "been" and "bin", then they aren't, generally,
> > homophones here in Md. Mostly, the one sounds like /bEn/ the other /bIn/.
> > I think I've got that right.
>
> Which is why Nik originally said that they're homophones in Southern
> American English, because /E/ just doesn't exist before nasals, except
> as an allophonic variant of /&/. (Pronouncing a full /&/ before nasals
> sounds positively foreign to me! :) )
Er. Right. Well, Nik said they were homophones in Southern, John thinks
they're homophones in all, except NE. Md. is only _barely_ Southern, and
certainly not NE. That's why I's saying they _aren't_ here; where we
seemingly go against the rest of the country.
I may have gotten the symbols wrong, though. For the first, I want a
short 'eh'; for the other a short 'ih'.
Padraic.
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