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Re: Four things: Was: Comparison of philosophical languages

From:Tristan <kesuari@...>
Date:Wednesday, January 22, 2003, 13:26
Sally Caves wrote:

>And Rosta uarlo krespr: > > >>France = tocaty = "proper noun middle artistic country" >>Italy = nacaty = "proper noun religious artistic country" >>Argentina = panuty = "proper noun cold random country" >>Egypt = byfity = "proper noun dry old country" >>Iraq = fibyty = "proper noun old dry country" >>Christianity = ybonate = "noun wet religious organization" >>Islam = yminate = "noun political religious organization" >>Judaism = yfinate = "noun old religious organization" >>Mormonism = yfunate = "noun new religious organization" >>pope = ytenatu = "noun top religious manager" >>Poland = jytoty = "proper noun dirty middle country" >> >> >....you run into the obvious problem of ethnocentrism. The above is a >perfect example of why this system of description won't work as a "perfect" >language to be spoken by all (if universality is a goal behind Andrew's >project and his striving for perfection). Mike Ellis has already responded >with some lively remarks which I leave out, but I have to agree with him >that applying "middle artistic" to France and "religious artistic" to Italy >and "dirty middle" to Poland seems culturally biased. And vague ("wet >religious organization."). >
Heh. At least those countries get names. Tasmanians would be relieved in that there's no way of linking them with the mainland in this language ;) (Might I suggest for the Commonwealth of Australia something on the lines of proper-noun-dry-oft-burnt-country (or, to (ab)use some poetry, proper-noun-sunburnt-country). I don't know if that'll fit into the requirements of the language... Maybe with a name like that, the Queen will no longer be 'shocked' by natural, yearly occurences that simply happen to go through our capital city. It's okay to be *horrified* by it. But being shocked by it is like being shocked that it rained in England... And I don't mean to denigrate any of the suffering of the Canberrans and any other people affected, just *our* Queen's surprise. Did she never notice e.g. Ash Wednesday 1983?</rant>) In the off-chance that anyone cares, being in Melbourne, I'm safe from the fires. I could see smoke rising out of a valley a few kilometres to our north, but it's controlled. (Though it has jumped the only major road between here and where it was last night.) (I live in a suburb established in the 70s with green areas to the north and east.) Tristan. http://movies.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Movies - What's on at your local cinema?