Re: Four things: Was: Comparison of philosophical languages
| From: | Sally Caves <scaves@...> |
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| Date: | Friday, January 24, 2003, 6:31 |
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----- Original Message -----
From: "John Cowan" <jcowan@...>
> Sally Caves scripsit:
>
> > 1) And, please remind me what an Engelang is, how it differs from a
> > loglang, and what its assumptions are that we "artlangers" are
"contentedly
> > blind" to. :)
>
> In short, an engelang is one that is designed to certain criteria, such
that
> it is objectively testable whether the criteria are met or not.
I'm sorry to be so dim, here. It would help to know what "enge-" stands
for; I know this was discussed a year or so ago, but I need reminding.
Also, could you please give me an example of a criterion and how it is
tested for to see that it is met?
> This is
> different from claiming that the criteria themselves are "objective".
Which is what a logical language does?
> For example, the Lojban/Loglan roots are designed to be maximally
> recognizable to the speakers of the (numerically) largest languages in the
> world in proportion to the number of speakers. It is not a matter of
> taste whether this criterion is met; it is something that can be tested.
So Lojban is an engelang and not a loglang? It sounds as though you are
applying your definition of an engelang to Lojban, which I had thought was a
logical language. Perhaps the one term has replaced the other?
I might eventually try my hand at a universal language, but only as it is
invented by a Teonivar. Which I suppose defeats the purpose and keep me
contentedly blind, but it will help me test what the cultural assumptions
are of my invented culture. An invented invented language.
> > 4) I am tired of the recent crankiness and fisty-cuffs on this list. I
> > would like to see less heat and more meat, as of old.
>
> Peace and order will return. And if not, the Strange Powers will be
exercised.
I've heard of these Strange Powers.
humbly, Sally
scaves@frontiernet.net
Eskkoat ol ai sendran, rohsan nuehra celyil takrem bomai nakuo.
"My shadow follows me, putting strange, new roses into the world."
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