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Re: Tolkien's notion of biology

From:Benct Philip Jonsson <bpj@...>
Date:Monday, December 15, 2003, 10:16
At 19:17 14.12.2003, Andreas Johansson wrote:

>Quoting "Thomas R. Wier" <trwier@...>: > > > Hi all, > > > > So, it's been a while. Been very busy teaching and whatnot. > >Wellcome back! You've been missed. > > > Before I can post something about C'ali or Phaleran (I don't > > really have anything to post), in the meantime here's a post > > from a linguistics blog about Tolkien: > > > > <http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/000214.html> > >Interesting piece, altho I cannot say I have not heard much the same many >times before.
Actually Tolkien has some things to say himself with bearing on the subject. Below I quote from LotR. The text of 'Letters' is not available at this time, but there he shows no truck with Hitler or antisemitism. # Sam, eager to see more, went now and joined the guards. # He scrambled a little way up into one of the larger of # the bay-trees. For a moment he caught a glimpse of # swarthy men in red running down the slope some way off # with green-clad warriors leaping after them, hewing them # down as they fled. Arrows were thick in the air. Then # suddenly straight over the rim of their sheltering bank, # a man fell, crashing through the slender trees, nearly # on top of them. He came to rest in the fern a few feet # away, face downward, green arrow-feathers sticking from # his neck below a golden collar. His scarlet robes were # tattered, his corslet of overlapping brazen plates was # rent and hewn, his black plaits of hair braided with # gold were drenched with blood. His brown hand still # clutched the hilt of a broken sword. # It was Sam's first view of a battle of Men against Men, # and he did not like it much. He was glad that he could # not see the dead face. He wondered what the man's name # was and where he came from; and if he was really evil of # heart, or what lies or threats had led him on the long # march from his home; and if he would not really rather # have stayed there in peace ######################################################## # Rómendacil showed especial favour to Vidugavia, who had # aided him in the war. He called himself King of # Rhovanion, and was indeed the most powerful of the # Northern princes, though his own realm lay between # Greenwood and the River Celduin. In 1250 Rómendacil # sent his son Valacar as an ambassador to dwell for a # while with Vidugavia and make himself acquainted with # the language, manners, and policies of the Northmen. But # Valacar far exceeded his father's designs. He grew to # love the Northern lands and people, and he married # Vidumavi, daughter of Vidugavia. It was some years # before he returned. From this marriage came later the # war of the Kin-strife. # 'For the high men of Gondor already looked askance at # the Northmen among them; and it was a thing unheard of # before that the heir to the crown, or any son of the # King, should wed one of lesser and alien race. There was # already rebellion in the southern provinces when King # Valacar grew old. His queen had been a fair and noble # lady, but short-lived according to the fate of lesser # Men, and the Dúnedain feared that her descendants would # prove the same and fall from the majesty of the Kings of # Men. Also they were unwilling to accept as lord her son, # who though he was now called Eldacar, had been born in # an alien country and was named in his youth Vinitharya, # a name of his mother's people. # Therefore when Eldacar succeeded his father there was # war in Gondor. But Eldacar did not prove easy to thrust # from his heritage. To the lineage of Gondor he added the # fearless spirit of the Northmen. He was handsome and # valiant, and showed no sign of ageing more swiftly than # his father. When the confederates led by descendants of # the kings rose against him, he opposed them to the end # of his strength. At last he was besieged in Osgiliath, # and held it long, until hunger and the greater forces of # the rebels drove him out, leaving the city in flames. In # that siege and burning the Tower of the Stone of # Osgiliath was destroyed, and the palantír was lost in # the waters. # 'But Eldacar eluded his enemies, and came to the North, # to his kinsfolk in Rhovanion. Many gathered to him # there, both of the Northmen in the service of Gondor, # and of the Dúnedain of the northern parts of the realm. # For many of the latter had learned to esteem him, and # many more came to hate his usurper. This was Castamir, # grandson of Calimehtar, younger brother of Rómendacil # II. He was not only one of those nearest by blood to the # crown, but be had the greatest following of all the # rebels; for he was the Captain of Ships, and was # supported by the people of the coasts and of the great # havens of Pelargir and Umbar. # 'Castamir had not long sat upon the throne before he # proved himself haughty and ungenerous. He was a cruel # man, as be had first shown in the taking of Osgiliath. # He caused Ornendil son of Eldacar, who was captured, to # be put to death; and the slaughter and destruction done # in the city at his bidding far exceeded the needs of # war. This was remembered in Minas Anor and in Ithilien; # and there love for Castamir was further lessened when it # became seen that he cared little for the land, and # thought only of the fleets, and purposed to remove the # king's seat to Pelargir. # 'Thus he had been king only ten years, when Eldacar, # seeing his time, came with a great army out of the # north, and folk flocked to him from Calenardhon and # Anórien and Ithilien. There was a great battle in # Lebennin at the Crossings of Erui, in which much of the # best blood in Gondor was shed. Eldacar himself slew # Castamir in combat, and so was avenged for Ornendil; but # Castamir's sons escaped, and with others of their kin # and many people of the fleets they held out long at # Pelargir. # 'When they had gathered there all the force that they # could (for Eldacar had no ships to beset them by sea) # they sailed away, and established themselves at Umbar. # There they made a refuge for all the enemies of the # king, and a lordship independent of his crown. Umbar # remained at war with Gondor for many lives of men, a # threat to its coastlands and to all traffic on the sea. # It was never again completely subdued until the days of # Elessar; and the region of South Gondor became a # debatable land between the Corsairs and the Kings.' /BP 8^) -- B.Philip Jonsson mailto:melrochX@melroch.se (delete X) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~__ A h-ammen ledin i phith! \ \ __ ____ ____ _____________ ____ __ __ __ / / \ \/___ \\__ \ /___ _____/\ \\__ \\ \ \ \\ \ / / / / / / / \ / /Melroch\ \_/ // / / // / / / / /___/ /_ / /\ \ / /'Aestan ~\_ // /__/ // /__/ / /_________//_/ \_\/ /Eowine __ / / \___/\_\\___/\_\ Gwaedhvenn Angeliniel\ \______/ /a/ /_h-adar Merthol naun ~~~~~~~~~Kuinondil~~~\________/~~\__/~~~Noolendur~~~~~~ || Lenda lenda pellalenda pellatellenda kuivie aiya! || "A coincidence, as we say in Middle-Earth" (JRR Tolkien)