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Re: CHAT: Definite/Indefinite Article Distinction

From:Muke Tever <mktvr@...>
Date:Thursday, September 12, 2002, 11:22
From: "Steven Williams" <feurieaux@...>
> On 10 Sep 02, at 12:22, bnathyuw scribbled in crayon: > > > use of def art with proper nouns : Greek, German > > use of def art with abstract nouns : Greek, French ( > > does German do this ? ) > > Yes, German does use the definite article with > abstract nouns at times. Instead of saying just > 'Natur' (nature - as in the collective entity of life > outside of manmade concrete boxes), one says 'die > Natur'. Sometimes, this is optional - I've heard both > 'Liebe' and 'die Liebe' (love) in abstract uses.
Kirumb uses indeclinable "há" [xQ:] (of obscure origin) for this. Technically it uses it for nouns whose referent is not merely definite but unequivocal: há X = "X in general" or "X (you know which X I mean)"--pretty much the places where English doesn't use articles. I don't know why she swallowed the fly. Perhaps she'll die. *Muke! -- http://www.frath.net/